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Tescos
Posted: March 23, 2005 06:48 pm
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So why don't we see scorps this big on sale? Is it because they come from the deepest darkest jungles of Africa and its just too dangerous to get them, or is it because no bugger is going to even atempt picking the thing up? wink.gif
If you have pics of bigger scorps post them up on this thread cause I want to see them (Dead or alive). thum-up.gif

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Posted: March 23, 2005 09:10 pm
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Posted: March 23, 2005 09:23 pm
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Almost as big a scallywag as Tescos but not worth a big mention
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As far as i can tell the bigger one's offen go to the pinner's killing jars cry.gif with many inverts.


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Posted: March 23, 2005 09:43 pm
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QUOTE (Tescos @ Mar 23 2005, 06:48 PM)
or is it because no bugger is going to even atempt picking the thing up? wink.gif

You could give lessons chris . Oh hang on i met your last student roll.gif roll.gif


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QUOTE (Ian M @ Mar 23 2005, 10:43 PM)
You could give lessons chris . Oh hang on i met your last student roll.gif roll.gif

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That was his own fault for believeing me when I said `Pick it up by the tail, and it will just dangle downŽ! laugh.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif roll.gif


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Posted: March 24, 2005 01:55 am
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Now that's something I wouldn't like to accidently find in my shoe. Ooouch

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Posted: March 24, 2005 01:57 am
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roll.gif roll.gif The wife has just had a quick look and said it's the most "minging" thing she has ever set eye's on !!

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Posted: April 10, 2005 11:05 am
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Heterometrus swammerdami i guess?


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Posted: April 10, 2005 11:25 am
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swammerdami has a yellow telson.

if you put the claws back to where they should be and arch the tale, what we have here is a very large Pandinus biggrin.gif

that specimen is 4" from 'nose' to base of tale, agreed it is very large, but not a monster


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Posted: April 10, 2005 01:49 pm
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well, i was going to edit and say:

'duh! just remembered imperator also has a yellow telson!'

but, i can't so i won't

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Boris Striffler
Posted: April 24, 2005 12:08 pm
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Hi Tesco,

the scorpion you show is definitely a Pandinus and not a Heterometrus, either Pandinus imperator or Pandinus dictator. Judging from that pic I would say it is a Pandinus imperator. For a definite ID I need to see the inner side of the pincer.

The largest Pandinus has about 25cm bodylength!! The scorpion you show over here has "only" about 20cm bodylength, as you measure from front of carapace to tip of tail. Within the same size class are also Heterometrus swammerdami.

I'll have to look for a comparative pic of the "normal" pet trade Pandinus imperator and the large Pandinus imperator. Which I'll post later on.


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Posted: April 24, 2005 06:24 pm
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Please do Boris I would love to see them.
BTW Going by the label which was attached it was collected in Africa and is indeed labeled as Pandinus imperator.


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Posted: April 25, 2005 03:56 pm
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Hi Tesco,

here we go:

normal pet vs. giant

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Posted: April 25, 2005 04:09 pm
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WOOOOT!!! That's rather large laugh.gif


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Posted: April 25, 2005 05:27 pm
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That's very interesting. I didn't know there was a difference in the forest and savannah scorpion.
I have a P imperator that is 8 inches from carapace to stinger (telson).


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Posted: April 25, 2005 08:17 pm
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QUOTE (Boris Striffler @ Apr 25 2005, 04:56 PM)
Hi Tesco,

here we go:

normal pet vs. giant

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Only a slight difference then! laugh.gif
Cheers Boris I never knew there were two forms. If only the forest ones were aviable. cry.gif Still what we have is still very nice so we can't complain. smile.gif


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Posted: April 25, 2005 08:57 pm
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Hi Chris,

the forest imperators were available about 15-20 years ago, but I never have seen them again.

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Posted: April 25, 2005 09:23 pm
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There were some P. imperator for sale at the Kettering show that were by far the biggest I've ever seen, and had that slight greenish tinge to them. I don't know if these were the forest form but it's a possibility?


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Posted: April 25, 2005 09:27 pm
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Hi Borris,

Any idea what this is??????

Hetrometrus I guess. Any Idea of species?

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Posted: April 25, 2005 09:41 pm
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Hi Andy,

I'd guess a Heterometrus swammerdami, just have to see the upper edge of the pincer from the outside. If it's quite straight it's most likely a Heterometrus, if it's rounded like you see in the pics above it's most likely a Pandinus.

Furthermore to be shure, if it's a Pandinus or a Heterometrus just look at this:
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WOW! That's amazing! I never knew they had 2 different variations of Emporer scorpions. The forest form looks like it could squash the Savana form. Mind you it probably could. If the 2 variations of this species were to cross each other would they eat each other?

I was just wondering because of the size. Nice photos! I've seen a photo of the forest form on another insect forum. I think it was the same size or something closer to it. Do they get any bigger in the forest form?


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