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Posted: January 06, 2009 05:46 pm
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Posted: January 06, 2009 07:14 pm
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I can't understand a word of the article Jakub, but that is a very nice looking spider smile.gif


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Posted: January 06, 2009 08:43 pm
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When I saw the photo I thought it's ladybird spider (Eresus cinnaberinus) biggrin.gif

Phil, Google Translate (click) helps to understand this article but its still a bit unclear.

I think in Czech it's called: stepník moravský.
It was discovered it so late because it lives in burrows underground.
Additionally people thought it's Eresus cinnaberinus.
At the end of article author highlights that the first meal of the offspring is their own mother. wink.gif

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Posted: January 06, 2009 09:14 pm
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Posted: January 06, 2009 10:02 pm
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Posted: January 07, 2009 03:47 pm
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Hi,

according to the article this new species is different from Ladybird spider (Eresus cinnaberinus). The ladybird spiders (Eresus cinnaberinus) also live in the Czech Republic, but they are also very rare. This new species lives in burows and its mother is the first meal for her offspring.It reaches 2cm in body lenght. It is also mentioned that discovering a new species of spider in central Europe is unique. But what I didn´t know is that this genus is slightly venomous. I thought that the most venomous European spider is Cheiracanthium punctorium.
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Posted: January 07, 2009 05:41 pm
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hi,
you probably mean Eresus kollari wink.gif
Habits are the same at Eresus kollari, burrow, feeding on mom, bodylength etc.
Do you know why they think it is a new species?
A friend got bitten by Eresus kollari female once, no effect at all.


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Posted: January 07, 2009 07:38 pm
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Hi Bastian, I don´t know. In the article it is written that you can immediately see that they are different. Also this species is now included in the World spiders catalog.

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Posted: January 07, 2009 08:46 pm
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Here all three species should be living - cinaberinus, kollari and moravicus (if i remember correctly).
The author of description of E. moravicus got bitten by a female and got pretty sick later.. The whole story is much more fun, but i am not sure if i can post it smile.gif


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Bastian Drolshagen
Posted: January 08, 2009 09:37 am
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hi Ota,
E. cinnaberinus is E. kollari now wink.gif
I´m trying to get the descriptions, anyone else interested?


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Posted: January 08, 2009 09:59 am
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Hi, Bastian,
I may try to get the description.. Matter of one phonecall smile.gif
As for cinnaberinus->kollari] i knew something was slightly different, but i had talked about it with a friend +-3/4 year ago.


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Bastian Drolshagen
Posted: January 08, 2009 10:23 am
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hi Ota,
it seems as if Rezác et al. (2008) synonymized E. cinnaberinus with E. kollari (in the same paper they described E. moravicus). I already sent an Email regarding the paper, but you can also try to get it - maybe I fail :P


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Posted: January 08, 2009 02:26 pm
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got much more than just a description smile.gif

and update: we do have three Eresus sp. here - kollari, moravicus and sandaliatus

tiny sling i had (mother collected in Hungary, not by me):
http://sklipkani.cz/polozka/1763

Some other pics made by my friends.....
http://sklipkani.cz/polozka/1790/Eresus-moravicus
http://sklipkani.cz/polozka/1777/Eresus-sandaliatus
http://sklipkani.cz/polozka/1802/Eresus-sp.


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Bastian Drolshagen
Posted: January 15, 2009 07:09 am
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hi Ota,
I got the paper. Interested?


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Posted: January 17, 2009 02:32 am
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Id love a copy of the paper ;]
dj.syndicate@gmail.com if you dont mind.
Eresidae are fascinating spiders!
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Posted: April 29, 2009 03:18 pm
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Posted: June 24, 2009 07:39 pm
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fantastic!!! i love Eresidae!
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Posted: June 25, 2009 06:52 am
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Eresus kollari adult female
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